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How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 28 2010, 10:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 28 2010, 10:06 PM EDT
How do we control the poker machine damage?
Firstly we should look at tobacco packaging, an eqivalent product that has reeked havoc in our health system. Firstly turn off the whizzing bangs and lights and replace them with pictures graphically displaying the effects of playing this machine. Destroyed lives, hungry children, baillifs repossessing houses, angry and frustrated relatives, suicides, and overcrowded prisons And clear written warnings that playing this machine is highly addictive not only to the player but to the people governing them.
When I buy my cigarettes and every time I choose to smoke one I am reminded of the damage that this form of “legitimate entertainment” can cause. As members of the community we should have a say in how dangerous products are marketed
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1. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 29 2010, 1:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 29 2010, 1:52 AM EDT
Just want to say..Well, put. Keep up the good work. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

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2. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 29 2010, 6:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 29 2010, 6:16 AM EDT
State governments are hopelessly addicted to the almost $4 billion a year they rake in from poker machine taxes—state governments that tinker around the edges and participate in window-dressing; state governments that are beholden to that obscenely overpaid tax collector, namely the poker machine industry. I heard that Clubs Australia was proposing measures to look after problem gamblers. Well, getting the gambling industry to look after problem gamblers is a bit like getting the wolf to look after Little Red Riding Hood.
The government’s position in relation to this report is to do nothing. It is to stall for another 12 months.
Mr Brumby are you reading this................?
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3. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 29 2010, 10:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 29 2010, 10:05 PM EDT
I love the Pokies.. there great. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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4. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 30 2010, 1:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 30 2010, 1:45 AM EDT
Messrs. Wilkie and Xenophon have got it right. $1 max bet, limit volatility to losses of $120 per hour, and cash acceptors take no more than $20 4  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    

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5. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 30 2010, 8:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 30 2010, 8:10 AM EDT
"Messrs. Wilkie and Xenophon have got it right. $1 max bet, limit volatility to losses of $120 per hour, and cash acceptors take no more than $20"
Now all we need is for someone to get it out to the people...

Demos outside the Pubs and Clubs....?
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6. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Sep 8 2010, 7:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 8 2010, 7:12 AM EDT
Here's how we control the pokie damage...
$1 max bet...
Maximum $20 into a BNA with no more money going in until credits are under $20...
DISABLE THE TAKE WIN BUTTON AND LEGISLATE ON TIME OF WINS!!!...
Slow down the spin rates to 5 seconds, 1 second per reel...

The industry are squealing like stuck pigs over these restrictions because they know it would affect them big time because they know that 80% of their profits come from problem gamblers and this would cut problem gambling by 80% so they would have to work for their money and club managers wouldn't be on six figure salaries and hotel owners wouldn't be raking in millions...

Maybe some shouldn't worry about outing people on here as those people might have some very good ideas about helping problem gambling whilst trying to stay anonymous... :)
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7. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Sep 13 2010, 5:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 13 2010, 5:19 AM EDT
Make Poker Machines fairer by taking away the games of chance and having people sitting in front of rolling wheels, like Zombies, playing machines which have been manipulated by their government controllers to not pay, and make them games of Skill to play with rewrds for that skill.

Ohh yeah, you say, but most of those who play and are addicted are not mental giants, otherwise they would realise that it is impossible to win on them, so the chances of winning on mental ability may well not work as well, but at least this would be better than seeing these Zombies wasting money tirelessly all day long with little or no chance of a return.

I am sick of hearing people say when going to, or entering a Pokie Machine Venue, "Im going to blow $20 on the pokies", admittedly its often quite a hell of a lot more they blow, but the statement is never one of "I am going to win" they know in advance they are not going to win, but still do.

I view staff who work at these venues in the same way I view Parking Cops, Tax Inspectors and other lowly thought of individuals because they get a position where they are benefitting from the people who cannot help themselves and often go out of their way to ensure these people stay and spend more and are often falsely friendly towards them because they want them to keep coming back to often lose money they cnnot afford to lose.

The whole industry is total corruption, its a legalised scam and should be shut down, but we all know it wont be.

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10. RE: How do we control the poker machine damage?
Aug 14 2011, 6:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 14 2011, 6:39 PM EDT
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I view staff who work at these venues in the same way I view Parking Cops, Tax Inspectors and other lowly thought of individuals because they get a position where they are benefitting from the people who cannot help themselves and often go out of their way to ensure these people stay and spend more and are often falsely friendly towards them because they want them to keep coming back to often lose money they cnnot afford to lose.

The whole industry is total corruption, its a legalised scam and should be shut down, but we all know it wont be.

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Well I view people who judge others based on their occupation in the same way I view people who use their mobile phone will they drive - they're both selfish ignorant morons and have no regard for anyone else. You must be so lucky to have a fulfilling job that makes a positive contribution to the community... what is it you do again? I wish I could be like you, unfortunately I am studying at university and the only employment I could find to suit my hours was in a gaming venue. For around $20p/h I cop abuse and outright rudeness from customers, deal with drunks, work over night shifts for no extra money and am at risk of armed robbery. Not really what you could call benefitting from others losses, hey? Yes, I am nice to my customers, not only is it part of my job but I hate it when I go somewhere and the staff are rude. For the most part, I actually like my job and like building a rapport with my customers and who are you to tell me I'm a bad person because some people have a problem with gambling? It is legal you know, it's not like I'm selling heroin to kids... Maybe you should actually go into one of these venues and have a chat to some of the patrons and get a bit of perspective, not everyone who plays has a problem... true story.
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